Bitte entsprechend verschieben, falls unpassend:
Aus der Behringer FB-Page vor 3 Tagen:
„We’re very excited to share the feedback from Hermann Seib, one of the co-innovators of the original PPG Wave. Hermann was gracious enough to provide incredible support for the development of our Wave synthesizer, which is now in its final stage. We spent over two years of intense development to recreate the sound of this iconic instrument.
Here's what Hermann has to say:
"My first Impressions of the new Blue Machine. I've had the honor and fun to play with the beta of the upcoming Behringer Wave for some time now. Putting it on top of its great-great-granddaddy, the PPG wave 2.2, which it is currently modeled after. It’s a much smaller form factor, mostly thanks to the 4-octave keyboard. I'd have preferred the original's 61-key layout, but the 49 full-size keys are OK, professionals will have a big controller or master keyboard anyway. For most purposes, 4 octaves are enough. The smaller overall size is no problem; the controller elements work quite well - they are large enough, with enough space in between, (former) PPG owners won't need much time to readjust, newcomers will find it easy to work with.
The display is quite similar to the original, the various pages (Analog, Digital and Tuning) look and work precisely like the original. I couldn't help grinning when I saw that they included the Mod Wheel setting on the Analog page in the same way I did in my V8.3 for the original, hehe... nice touch, Behringer
The Program page is a bit different and doesn't have exactly the same feature set, while some things are implemented in a different way, like the relatively hard to use sequencer of the original. OK, back then, the complete operating system of the PPG Wave had to fit into 24k; a very tight fit. Oh yes, there's a little oscilloscope display beneath the main display. It works quite well.
Now regarding the most important part, the big question: "Yeah, but does it sound like a PPG?" - I think they pretty much nailed it. I've played through all of the factory programs I know and love since many years, and it reproduced them dutifully and very much in an authentic way. Editing new sounds should be no problem to anyone already familiar with the PPG Wave, and the results match the original to a really high degree; complete identity is unreachable anyway, since each and every PPG sounds a bit differently, thanks to the analog chips and the "tuned by ear" filters. But it comes really, really close. Plus, it already got some features surpassing the original, and I'm sure more will be added over time, once the basics are fully working. The OS still needs to be fully completed, but the sound is already fully there in my opinion. Well, that's it - these are my first impressions on a new Blue Machine in my arsenal. Of course, a WaveTerm app is planned in collaboration with Behringer when the unit is ready for production. Really exciting project and I enjoy being part of this revival."
Na gug, wenn selbst ein Original Entwickler schon sagt das Behringer einen guten Job gemacht hat, ihm der neue Wave gefällt und Spaß macht, sollte das den Behringer Hatern mal zu denken geben.Bitte entsprechend verschieben, falls unpassend:
Aus der Behringer FB-Page vor 3 Tagen:
„We’re very excited to share the feedback from Hermann Seib, one of the co-innovators of the original PPG Wave. Hermann was gracious enough to provide incredible support for the development of our Wave synthesizer, which is now in its final stage. We spent over two years of intense development to recreate the sound of this iconic instrument.
Here's what Hermann has to say:
"My first Impressions of the new Blue Machine. I've had the honor and fun to play with the beta of the upcoming Behringer Wave for some time now. Putting it on top of its great-great-granddaddy, the PPG wave 2.2, which it is currently modeled after. It’s a much smaller form factor, mostly thanks to the 4-octave keyboard. I'd have preferred the original's 61-key layout, but the 49 full-size keys are OK, professionals will have a big controller or master keyboard anyway. For most purposes, 4 octaves are enough. The smaller overall size is no problem; the controller elements work quite well - they are large enough, with enough space in between, (former) PPG owners won't need much time to readjust, newcomers will find it easy to work with.
The display is quite similar to the original, the various pages (Analog, Digital and Tuning) look and work precisely like the original. I couldn't help grinning when I saw that they included the Mod Wheel setting on the Analog page in the same way I did in my V8.3 for the original, hehe... nice touch, Behringer
The Program page is a bit different and doesn't have exactly the same feature set, while some things are implemented in a different way, like the relatively hard to use sequencer of the original. OK, back then, the complete operating system of the PPG Wave had to fit into 24k; a very tight fit. Oh yes, there's a little oscilloscope display beneath the main display. It works quite well.
Now regarding the most important part, the big question: "Yeah, but does it sound like a PPG?" - I think they pretty much nailed it. I've played through all of the factory programs I know and love since many years, and it reproduced them dutifully and very much in an authentic way. Editing new sounds should be no problem to anyone already familiar with the PPG Wave, and the results match the original to a really high degree; complete identity is unreachable anyway, since each and every PPG sounds a bit differently, thanks to the analog chips and the "tuned by ear" filters. But it comes really, really close. Plus, it already got some features surpassing the original, and I'm sure more will be added over time, once the basics are fully working. The OS still needs to be fully completed, but the sound is already fully there in my opinion. Well, that's it - these are my first impressions on a new Blue Machine in my arsenal. Of course, a WaveTerm app is planned in collaboration with Behringer when the unit is ready for production. Really exciting project and I enjoy being part of this revival."
Schön sieht der BBG ja aus. Und von Anfang hat mich das Teil angesprochen und interessiert.
Wenn das Teil dann auch mal endlich erhältlich wäre oder man endlich mal einen offiziellen Preis genannt bekommen würde, dass wäre sehr schön.
Das gilt für alle polyphonen Synthesizer Projekte von Behringer.
Ich lese gerne über Synthesizer aber noch lieber höre ich Synthesizer und noch viel lieber fummel ich selber dran rum.
In der Zwischenzeit kommen immer mehr alternativen von anderen Herstellern oder die Originale auf den Markt um so wichtiger ist es mal einen Preis von B. zu hören.
Aber klar Liebesbriefe von netten und wichtigen Leuten öffentlich zu machen ist kurzweilig auch interessant.
Ich bin auch gespannt was der "3rd Wave" von der Firma Groove Synthesis kosten wird. Alles eine Preisfrage?
jedenfalls kann man das m.E. nicht wirklich objektiv entscheiden.
Ich finde es z.B. gut, dass der 3rd Wave mehr Platz auf dem Panel und so viele Regler hat - und auch das große Display gefällt mir ganz gut ... aber irgendwas stört mich (auf den ersten Blick) an der Optik der Buttons (und das die rot leuchten ...). Denke aber auch, dass sich solche Eindrücke schnell relativieren, wenn man mal eine Zeitlang vor dem Gerät gesessen hat.
Schön sieht der BBG ja aus. Und von Anfang hat mich das Teil angesprochen und interessiert.
Wenn das Teil dann auch mal endlich erhältlich wäre oder man endlich mal einen offiziellen Preis genannt bekommen würde, dass wäre sehr schön.
Das gilt für alle polyphonen Synthesizer Projekte von Behringer.
Ich lese gerne über Synthesizer aber noch lieber höre ich Synthesizer und noch viel lieber fummel ich selber dran rum.
In der Zwischenzeit kommen immer mehr alternativen von anderen Herstellern oder die Originale auf den Markt um so wichtiger ist es mal einen Preis von B. zu hören.
Aber klar Liebesbriefe von netten und wichtigen Leuten öffentlich zu machen ist kurzweilig auch interessant.
Ich bin auch gespannt was der "3rd Wave" von der Firma Groove Synthesis kosten wird. Alles eine Preisfrage?
Es gibt keine guten Hater. Es gibt nur Neider!
Ach Du wirst da zitiert?
Ja.
Ich glaube ihnen, dass sie das nicht vorsätzlich, sondern aus Unkenntnis so geschrieben haben; speziell in Anbetracht meiner späteren Verbindung (und das "später" ist auch schon deutlich über 10 Jahre) zu Wolfgang Palm kann man auf die Idee kommen. Zu meinem Text darunter kann ich jedenfalls 100%ig stehen.
danke für die klarstellung, und
glg
Hoi Hermann, genau so ist es - ging mir beim Waldorf M genauso (etwas anderer Zeithorizont). Kannst/Darfst Du etwas über die technische Realisierung seiten Behringer berichten? Vor allem in Bezug auf das PROZ Board. Viel der Magie der PPG Waves wird ja der speziellen Erzeugung der Schwingungsformen zugeschrieben und vom PROZ Board des PPG Wave zum ASIC des Waldorf Microwave weiter zur Emulation im M geht ja einiges dieser Magie verloren. Den Analogteil sehe ich schon weniger kritisch (hier gibt es ja die Coolaudio-Chips).
Nur am Rande, zwecks Klarstellung:
