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hey Leute! ich bin faul zum übersetzen und hoffe es ist ok das ich meinen englischen text kopiere?
Falls sich jemand durchqu#lt möchte ich schon mal meinen dank aussprechen!!!
hi! before i start, thanks for taking the time and trying to help me
some backgrounds to me.
i use FL Studio since maybe 9 years now and i demo'ed in the past Cubase and hated it for the fiddly and ugly GUI. maybe im just attached to more colours etc. but anyways i love fl studio, i love the pattern based production, i already produced rap beats, electronic stuff where i think fl studio is awesome in that, i also did ambient/dark ambient and always used the playlist (not the blocksequencer etc.) i always use the piano roll instead of the step sequencer, never been a fan of it.
+ points for fl studio for me so far:
- it loads up fast, you have a great mixer layout, fast overview what is in the mixerchains, what is connected where to, which vsts are in the instances/patterns, you can build patterns asap/copy/alter etc. i just love the work with it, i know where to look at, the browser for samples is great and fast incl. previews, the plugin picker is awesome, the tree view etc.
overall i dont use so many functions i guess with fl studio but still i love it.
- points!
- automations are nice but it seems in ableton etc. you can create much faster automations, automations can be clunky especially removing them, FL STUDIO crashes and projects CANNOT be loaded again! WTF?! this is the most annoying crap which made me quit many days to go on making music. you got ONLY 8 slots in mixer channels as inserts. all the buffer size stuff seems to be bad ONLY in fl studio. the PDC seems worse than other DAWS, i recognized it when starting to use more and more mastering plugins last year and it didnt compensate delay well..... CPU efficiency seem bad but i dunno yet if true. midi routing is ok for me, i learned it but seems more cumbersome. all the windows can be too much sometimes especially with a small monitor
so it sounds im ranting a lot! yes i am, but still i NEVER used any other DAW much so far and i hear a lot of negative pioints i listed are much better in other DAWs.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME:
to have a great piano roll, fast creative and easy to work with.
MOST IMPORTANT, STABILITY! and when the DAW crashes i can RELOAD projects
without a problem and find out maybe myself which plugin crashed it.
PDC improvemnts!
maybe a better? and faster workflow when you edit/alter midi patterns and also create automations + change audiofiles on the fly
Ghost notes/chord tracker? something i saw in Studio One would be awesome, in fl studio you can shadowy let it show which notes are played in other patterns and which chord you play and have to play notes.
so far i demo'ed ONLY 1 hour bitwig and i got positive experiences so far with it BUT it is a TOTALLY different workflow, of course after 9 years i need time and learn but the DAW has to be logic and clicking for me. so far it is uglier than fl studio of course but the modulation stuff is awesome, but then the other points need to be checked by me if the DAW can fulfill it
.
another question i copiedfrom kvr forums are especially bitwig and studio one:
hey guys, i was at the IMSTA and was talking to guys from BITWIG & Studio One, sadly Reaper and Ableton were not presented but oh my, those 2 seem awesome! but different....
when telling them that i got projects which crash and trying to reload and it isnt possible as error messages pop up they were SHOCKED!
bitwig told me that if a projects crashes it is ALWAYS possible to reload the project and pinpoint WHY it crashed, mostly finding out myself.
Studio one told me too that their crashing projects (if at all! ahahaha they were VERY self confident
) reload without problems and might if it is the case, leave out the crashed plugin. so no prob for them too and they got a CRASH LOG when it crashed.
even i use FL Studio still wrong and dont know how to recover projects or it might just suck! cause when a project crashes and i cannot reload it IL asks me to load an older version of the project, checkout the plugins i used (if i remember lol...) etc. a process which is cumbersome and plain st*pid! afaik no crash logs are generated, a trial and error etc.
as the guys were from their companies they always tell their product is awesome and better than others. so i ask here how are your experiences? is it like they told? if you got a crashed project, can you reload it? if so how is it changed then? how is the pinpointing of finding out why it crashed etc.?
thanks a lot guys!
Studio one has a lot of awesome features i love which bitwig AND fl studio are missing, but bitwig has those awesome modulations which are also maybe a game changer... i might get one of them but dunno yet. i demo'ed bitwig an hour now and i still am not into its workflow. after 9 years fl studio it is of course hard for me....
BIG EDIT:
i dont need DAWs because of the plugins, i got over 100 - 200 plugins and am covered. also im on Win10 and have a 1 year old pc
Falls sich jemand durchqu#lt möchte ich schon mal meinen dank aussprechen!!!
hi! before i start, thanks for taking the time and trying to help me
some backgrounds to me.
i use FL Studio since maybe 9 years now and i demo'ed in the past Cubase and hated it for the fiddly and ugly GUI. maybe im just attached to more colours etc. but anyways i love fl studio, i love the pattern based production, i already produced rap beats, electronic stuff where i think fl studio is awesome in that, i also did ambient/dark ambient and always used the playlist (not the blocksequencer etc.) i always use the piano roll instead of the step sequencer, never been a fan of it.
+ points for fl studio for me so far:
- it loads up fast, you have a great mixer layout, fast overview what is in the mixerchains, what is connected where to, which vsts are in the instances/patterns, you can build patterns asap/copy/alter etc. i just love the work with it, i know where to look at, the browser for samples is great and fast incl. previews, the plugin picker is awesome, the tree view etc.
overall i dont use so many functions i guess with fl studio but still i love it.
- points!
- automations are nice but it seems in ableton etc. you can create much faster automations, automations can be clunky especially removing them, FL STUDIO crashes and projects CANNOT be loaded again! WTF?! this is the most annoying crap which made me quit many days to go on making music. you got ONLY 8 slots in mixer channels as inserts. all the buffer size stuff seems to be bad ONLY in fl studio. the PDC seems worse than other DAWS, i recognized it when starting to use more and more mastering plugins last year and it didnt compensate delay well..... CPU efficiency seem bad but i dunno yet if true. midi routing is ok for me, i learned it but seems more cumbersome. all the windows can be too much sometimes especially with a small monitor
so it sounds im ranting a lot! yes i am, but still i NEVER used any other DAW much so far and i hear a lot of negative pioints i listed are much better in other DAWs.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME:
to have a great piano roll, fast creative and easy to work with.
MOST IMPORTANT, STABILITY! and when the DAW crashes i can RELOAD projects
without a problem and find out maybe myself which plugin crashed it.
PDC improvemnts!
maybe a better? and faster workflow when you edit/alter midi patterns and also create automations + change audiofiles on the fly
Ghost notes/chord tracker? something i saw in Studio One would be awesome, in fl studio you can shadowy let it show which notes are played in other patterns and which chord you play and have to play notes.
so far i demo'ed ONLY 1 hour bitwig and i got positive experiences so far with it BUT it is a TOTALLY different workflow, of course after 9 years i need time and learn but the DAW has to be logic and clicking for me. so far it is uglier than fl studio of course but the modulation stuff is awesome, but then the other points need to be checked by me if the DAW can fulfill it
another question i copiedfrom kvr forums are especially bitwig and studio one:
hey guys, i was at the IMSTA and was talking to guys from BITWIG & Studio One, sadly Reaper and Ableton were not presented but oh my, those 2 seem awesome! but different....
when telling them that i got projects which crash and trying to reload and it isnt possible as error messages pop up they were SHOCKED!
bitwig told me that if a projects crashes it is ALWAYS possible to reload the project and pinpoint WHY it crashed, mostly finding out myself.
Studio one told me too that their crashing projects (if at all! ahahaha they were VERY self confident
even i use FL Studio still wrong and dont know how to recover projects or it might just suck! cause when a project crashes and i cannot reload it IL asks me to load an older version of the project, checkout the plugins i used (if i remember lol...) etc. a process which is cumbersome and plain st*pid! afaik no crash logs are generated, a trial and error etc.
as the guys were from their companies they always tell their product is awesome and better than others. so i ask here how are your experiences? is it like they told? if you got a crashed project, can you reload it? if so how is it changed then? how is the pinpointing of finding out why it crashed etc.?
thanks a lot guys!
Studio one has a lot of awesome features i love which bitwig AND fl studio are missing, but bitwig has those awesome modulations which are also maybe a game changer... i might get one of them but dunno yet. i demo'ed bitwig an hour now and i still am not into its workflow. after 9 years fl studio it is of course hard for me....
BIG EDIT:
i dont need DAWs because of the plugins, i got over 100 - 200 plugins and am covered. also im on Win10 and have a 1 year old pc